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Gaming Discussions => Server News => Topic started by: [NRNS]DR-EVIL on April 28, 2017, 13:16:05 PM
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I will be taking this server offline around midnight gmt 28/04/2017 for a rebuild. i will post back here when its completed
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Why doc?
I'll also be on TS around midnight GMT+1 :)
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rgr, what you changing mate?
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I will be taking this server offline around midnight gmt 28/04/2017 for a rebuild. i will post back here when its completed
ok
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Finally....... Thanks!
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done
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P90,L8A1, snipers still too powerful against other weapons. And if u shoot heli with rocket it wont blow one shot is it right?
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P90,L8A1, snipers still too powerful against other weapons. And if u shoot heli with rocket it wont blow one shot is it right?
lol
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I'll give my feedback once I try it.
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P90,L8A1, snipers still too powerful against other weapons. And if u shoot heli with rocket it wont blow one shot is it right?
nrns for 10+ years has always ran 1 shot anti tank and 1 shot sniper with the unlimited run. thats what got all your attention from day one so why would we change the very thing that you all have used from day one??????
get this 60 players in the server 20 of them are snipers so we change the sniper and lose 20 players. where are you going to find 20 more players to replace the ones you lost???? its basic logic. the arguement is like saying everyone is running to fast in game so lets remove the unlimited run so we lose what attacts our players.
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Not what i meant...... Mod also Other kits to usable, for example shotgun is shit now. 5m range it should kill instantly and nothing happened. And it is good that rocket kill tank and ABC with one shot i agree with that but shooting heli with Two rocket is shit also.
Now everything is like it was when everything were good but still there is only 3 playable kits.
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My guess is:
We "can" lose players either way...
If we keep the snipers like that, we might lose players because they will get tired of being spawncamped/useless teammates (and spawncamping is happening a lot).
If we nerf snipers we might lose the 20 campers Dr. talked above. But we might win players that are tired of getting one shoted and camped out.
My opinions, to the sniper situation are:
1 - We try to promote teamplay, change the scores so camping is not worth doing anymore.
Kills = still 2 points.
Revives = 3 points.
Amno/heal giving = 2 points.
Flag capture: 7 points.
Flag neutralize/capture assist: 3 points.
Repair points: 10 per asset.
Demoliton points: 10 per asset.
(this are just estimated values)
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Take the one shot away from m24 and l96, put it only on the M95 and give more power to the pistols on that kit.
(you can kill me now)
So we gotta try things, and find the middle ground.
I havent tried the server yet since the reset, because of work and stuff...
But based on what Mannisto said, 2 shots on Heli with RL is bad.
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Snipers have always been part of this clan and it is not problem because they are always same point and if u have played this game 10 yeas u know were they camp. Problem is that G36C,Shotguns,AK-101,M4,F2000,M16 etc are weak and useless against P90 or L85A1
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Still, if you're gonna change all kits and not the snipers.... Well... Its just my opinion.
AK 101 was perfect before the reset.
It was actually better than the L8.
I give full input when I try the "new" server.
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Snipers have always been part of this clan and it is not problem because they are always same point and if u have played this game 10 yeas u know were they camp. Problem is that G36C,Shotguns,AK-101,M4,F2000,M16 etc are weak and useless against P90 or L85A1
+1
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Disclaimer: I maintain my views that there are many different ways/styles to play/enjoy games. I feel that players playing for personal gratification in obtaining high kill/death ratios are perfectly legit players.
It seems like a high kill/death ratio is the only thing that matters to a lot of gamers in the current meta of FPS games. What I mean is that you 'win' the game if you have the highest k/d ratio ... regardless if your team wins the objective, conquers the map, etc. I think this is made worse by the popularity of the CoD-like arena games where the *only* objective is to kill the enemy. In BF2 this gets simplified/complicated by the BF2 scoring system. Pure k/d is replaced by the aggregate score so whatever results in the highest score per min will be desirable (currently that seems to be kills).
It's possible that by-large gamers have changed and most are stuck in that mentality where k/d or score is more important than any other objective. If so there's probably not much we can do to get our BF2 server back to a teamwork-focused style of gameplay. However, there's always subtle propaganda (publicly praise teamplayers in game chat, scripts that recognize teamplay and announce it to the team, etc) and placing an increased emphasis on the importance of a team win. Should individual soldiers still be able to display their trophy scalps after loosing the battle? Sure, it's impressive that they got X kills but ... their team lost. Maybe they should get X/2, X/4, or even X/X points for that lost battle (that's half points, quarter points, or 1 point). Reducing the points of the loosing side might inspire players to work together to capture objectives and win the game as BF2 seems to have intended.
...Duno. Personally I don't think there's anything wrong with the NRNS servers the way they were modded before (I didn't play any of the recent mods so can't speak about them). I just think players have fundamentally shifted from wanting to win the BF2 battle to wanting to win the FPS battle. If we want them to shift back it's up to us to demonstrate that teamwork based gameplay is desirable.
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Thats why I suggested a rework at the point reward system.
If weapons, like snipers are not gonna be touched because its not the "NRNS way", at least the rewards should be changed.
Rewarding teamwork with more points, and K/D ratio with fewer points.
If that system gets a green light I have a recente footage of a K/D player, or a camper as they find themselves at the middle of the score table with lots of kills but only a few points.
This is a leaked footage of a camper getting to play the new point system:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ICJ8xX3E0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ICJ8xX3E0
Where did you find a video of Germany playinf BF2? ???
You are full of surprises Kek..
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Where did you find a video of Germany playinf BF2? ???
You are full of surprises Kek..
I can uncover the deep secrets, you know me :D
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Okay.
After some testing my input is:
Weapons:
G3 = Damage Buff
F2000 = Small damage buff
AK101 = Damage Buff
G36C/M4 = Damage Buff
M16/G36E = Damage Buff, this needs special tweaking as those are burst weapons
AK47 = Damage Buff and a tiny bit more accuracy
MP5 = Damage buff
MK3A1 = Damage/Range Nerf
DAO-12 = Damage buff (small one).
MP7 = Damage Buff
Saiga 12K = Same as MK3A1.
NOR982/M11 = Range decreased, damage increased.
ERYX/SRAW = choppers need to go down in 1 hit. 2 hit on tanks is fine (might benefit from damage areas: reduced damage if hits the tank in front; damage bonus for hiting from behind);. APC one hit is fine. Might be good to increase the travel speed of the rocket?
Sniper kit needs to have only one claymore, they are now using it to clean the flag capture area, and spawnpoints/flag areas are infested with clays.
Vehicles:
Tank/LAV-25/WZ551/BTR-90: speed buff, like before.
DPV/FAV/: Speed buff (20%).
Special attention needs:
L85 = NERF THIS (a lot)
P90 = SAME AS THE ABOVE
Disclaimer:
Can't specify the % on buffs and nerfs on each weapon because every case might be different, so they all need proper testing while reworking.
Disclaimer of the disclaimer:
My general opinion.
Point system:
Needs a change , reward teamplay and rekt K/D players like they deserve.
Kills = still 2 points.
Revives = 3 points.
Amno/heal giving = 2 points.
Flag capture: 7 points.
Flag neutralize/capture assist: 3 points.
Repair points: 10 per asset.
Demoliton points: 10 per asset.
(this are just estimated values)
Map balance:
Sharqui peninsula:
remove autoadmin safebase attack protection on the MEC flag with the helicopter.
Why? MEC likes to rape the TV station and destroy the USMC chopper before they can take off.
Make USMC have the chance to fight back in the same way.
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Okay.
After some testing my input is:
Weapons:
G3 = Damage Buff
F2000 = Small damage buff
AK101 = Damage Buff
G36C/M4 = Damage Buff
M16/G36E = Damage Buff, this needs special tweaking as those are burst weapons
AK47 = Damage Buff and a tiny bit more accuracy
MP5 = Damage buff
MK3A1 = Damage/Range Nerf
DAO-12 = TBD.
MP7 = Damage Buff
Saiga 12K = TDB.
NOR982/M11 = TBD.
ERYX/SRAW = choppers need to go down in 1 hit. 2 hit on tanks is fine (might benefit from damage areas: reduced damage if hits the tank in front; damage bonus for hiting from behind);. APC one hit is fine. Might be good to increase the travel speed of the rocket?
Vehicles:
Tank/LAV-25/WZ551/BTR-90: speed buff, like before.
DPV/FAV/: Speed buff (20%).
Special attention needs:
L85 = NERF THIS (a lot)
P90 = SAME AS THE ABOVE
Disclaimer:
Can't specify the % on buffs and nerfs on each weapon because every case might be different, so they all need proper testing while reworking.
Disclaimer of the disclaimer:
My general opinion.
Point system:
Needs a change , reward teamplay and rekt K/D players like they deserve.
Kills = still 2 points.
Revives = 3 points.
Amno/heal giving = 2 points.
Flag capture: 7 points.
Flag neutralize/capture assist: 3 points.
Repair points: 10 per asset.
Demoliton points: 10 per asset.
(this are just estimated values)
I agree with all of that
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L85,P-90 and snipers are fine..
...those weapons are the most played kits on the server and they are the favorite weapons too..
..if you change them then we should open vanilla city maps and close the server in 3 months...
ppl come here to play because of those weapons...
we need to increase damage and accuracy at other weapons so they could compete with L85 and P90 and than u will have a nice balanced server
and the pointing system should be changed as Fight-men said....
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We tried that. It was all shot down.
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L85,P-90 and snipers are fine..
...those weapons are the most played kits on the server and they are the favorite weapons too..
..if you change them then we should open vanilla city maps and close the server in 3 months...
ppl come here to play because of those weapons...
we need to increase damage and accuracy at other weapons so they could compete with L85 and P90 and than u will have a nice balanced server
and the pointing system should be changed as Fight-men said....
If we keep thinking like that, that we might lose players that like other weapons, we might was well put one shot on every weapon out there :/
We are just thinking/worrying about snipers,L85 and P90 users, afraid that they leave us.
What about the other people?
The ones that like G3? G36E? G36C? AK? And many other weapons?
They might leave us too.
IMO, we shouldn't balance the server thinking/worrying about people's favourite weapons.
Everyone has a weapon that they like most.
I love the L85,but I dont care if it gets nerfed so other weapons become viable.
Players will adapt if we change things.
We tried that. It was all shot down.
Why? :(
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..just to add ..my favorite gun is g36c...
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how many times the sniper is not been lowers so please stop going on about it. i will not change something nrns has ran for years. every time there is a post about bf2 weapons its always about the fing sniper and every time i tell you the exact same thing. i would of thought you all got the fact that the sniper is not changing.
maybe if i say il close the community before i change the sniper you all might finally get what im saying.
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how many times the sniper is not been lowers so please stop going on about it. i will not change something nrns has ran for years. every time there is a post about bf2 weapons its always about the fing sniper and every time i tell you the exact same thing. i would of thought you all got the fact that the sniper is not changing.
maybe if i say il close the community before i change the sniper you all might finally get what im saying.
Forget the sniper its fine but can u upgrade every other gun like we asked?
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with limits yes
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Have u any idea about why server is lagging all the time after rebuild?
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lagging??? there is no reason that should be happening.
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I know Lali, that's why I mentioned it.
I love them both: G36E and G36C.
Dr,
I only mentioned the snipers as and example, we already discussed the matter about snipers :)
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- updated the weapon list
- added map info
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There is a problem with the supply boxes on Blue Pearl. They can't be destroyed by grenades because they "eat" the grenades that fall close to them. When I noticed I was chinese team and tryed to destroy US boxes close to the US arti and another close to the US UAV.
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There is a problem with the supply boxes on Blue Pearl. They can't be destroyed by grenades because they "eat" the grenades that fall close to them. When I noticed I was chinese team and tryed to destroy US boxes close to the US arti and another close to the US UAV.
that's a glitch in the game cant do anything about it mate
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ive noticed the points has gone back to the original again, the points different and guns too ha
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ive noticed the points has gone back to the original again, the points different and guns too ha
Its that way since Dr reseted it?
Or am I wrong?